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==Busy Work Conversation==
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'''CLARA''': Hi manetta, I changed the names of the menu items on the top but when you click on it, it shows you the old name as a weird note. Attached a screenshot. Would it be possible to change this?
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'''MANETTA''': Ah yes, these are redirects. The wiki does not remove a page, but 'moves' it to another name, hence both pages still exist. <s> But yes we can remove it i think, i will have a look at it!</s>
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'''*after a moment* MANETTA''': I removed the redirect. It was written on this page: http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/Editorials (now it is empty! which made the redirect on the page "Stacks" disappear.) also ... in reply to your question about the ''top menu'': To change it, you can edit this page http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar
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'''CLARA''': I'm still fighting with Lesaanbod for first year curriculum UGH But I will head over to WDKA soon, have a meeting with Roger in the afternoon so I can ask him about invoicing and stuff for Andre's raspberry pi and other needs.
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Also, Rümeysa asked if we could advance her some $$$$ cos she running low and needs money for transporation. Can we make a small downpayment with her and I can send full invoice in a couple of weeks?
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'''MANETTA''': Yes let's do that!
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=WORK SESSION 4 🏉=
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5 October 2018
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==Running Ideas==
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EVENTS PAGE
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Should there be an events editor? Every month maybe give the events page to one space? One person?
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Student assistant? Where o where to get funds for this. Hi Roger. If you are reading this, I know we talked about this already. But yeah, a student volunteer system would be nice.
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==Recorded Conversations==
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Metadata as fictionizing information, information that produces fiction when you try to use it to classify people.
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Metadata such as where you come from, what time you worked on something, etc...
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This metadata is decontextualized, or perhaps only makes sense to a machine, or perhaps can be exploited and sold for larger corporate interests. It's information about humans that dehumanizes them in a way.
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How can this data be made humane? Or at least playful. 
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=WORK SESSION 3 🐸 =
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25 September 2018
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Andre, Clara, Manetta
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Was running around a lot today. Didn't get to take much notes. Worked on the interview. My favorite part was including a line from Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland to ask the visitor about their text vs image consumption habits/hierarchies.
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IMAGE VS TEXT CONSUMPTION
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“And what is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or conversation?
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-Lewis Carroll
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Clara
 
  
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22 September 2018, between 5-630h.
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So I woke up from a dream about a teacher and BS (Beyond Social, though bullshit was also involved in the dream)
 
So I woke up from a dream about a teacher and BS (Beyond Social, though bullshit was also involved in the dream)
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If they choose human chat they can facetime with a librarian. Either real face time or video chat
 
If they choose human chat they can facetime with a librarian. Either real face time or video chat
  
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We need volunteers to help serve information, assemble final info packets and maybe also gather information as silent observers stationed around theroonm. Maybe the data of secret observers (wearing white jacket, looks nervous) can also be useful? Can be served in receipt printer too. Talk with student volunteers about this on October 5.  
 
We need volunteers to help serve information, assemble final info packets and maybe also gather information as silent observers stationed around theroonm. Maybe the data of secret observers (wearing white jacket, looks nervous) can also be useful? Can be served in receipt printer too. Talk with student volunteers about this on October 5.  

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WORK SESSION 5 🏉

12 October 2018

Screengrab BS Dev.png

Busy Work Conversation

CLARA: Hi manetta, I changed the names of the menu items on the top but when you click on it, it shows you the old name as a weird note. Attached a screenshot. Would it be possible to change this?

MANETTA: Ah yes, these are redirects. The wiki does not remove a page, but 'moves' it to another name, hence both pages still exist. But yes we can remove it i think, i will have a look at it!

*after a moment* MANETTA: I removed the redirect. It was written on this page: http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/Editorials (now it is empty! which made the redirect on the page "Stacks" disappear.) also ... in reply to your question about the top menu: To change it, you can edit this page http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar

CLARA: I'm still fighting with Lesaanbod for first year curriculum UGH But I will head over to WDKA soon, have a meeting with Roger in the afternoon so I can ask him about invoicing and stuff for Andre's raspberry pi and other needs.

Also, Rümeysa asked if we could advance her some $$$$ cos she running low and needs money for transporation. Can we make a small downpayment with her and I can send full invoice in a couple of weeks?

MANETTA: Yes let's do that!

WORK SESSION 4 🏉

5 October 2018

Running Ideas

EVENTS PAGE

Should there be an events editor? Every month maybe give the events page to one space? One person?

Student assistant? Where o where to get funds for this. Hi Roger. If you are reading this, I know we talked about this already. But yeah, a student volunteer system would be nice.

Recorded Conversations

Metadata as fictionizing information, information that produces fiction when you try to use it to classify people. Metadata such as where you come from, what time you worked on something, etc... This metadata is decontextualized, or perhaps only makes sense to a machine, or perhaps can be exploited and sold for larger corporate interests. It's information about humans that dehumanizes them in a way. How can this data be made humane? Or at least playful.

WORK SESSION 3 🐸

25 September 2018 Andre, Clara, Manetta

Was running around a lot today. Didn't get to take much notes. Worked on the interview. My favorite part was including a line from Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland to ask the visitor about their text vs image consumption habits/hierarchies.

IMAGE VS TEXT CONSUMPTION

“And what is the use of a book," thought Alice, "without pictures or conversation?

-Lewis Carroll

Strongly agree

Moderately agree

Neutral

Moderately disagree

Strongly disagree


DREAM SEQUENCE

22 September 2018, between 5-630h. Clara

So I woke up from a dream about a teacher and BS (Beyond Social, though bullshit was also involved in the dream)

Some ideas came from the dream and the dreamlike state after the dream.

Wordplay on or misunderstanding of The Commons 

Using data to find out what The (literally) Common is, a concept that anyway has been emptied of much of its meaning so there is a void to be filled. Also just annoyed at people using or claiming to be commoning when they're not. So why not misuse the concept and in doing so perhaps find out something more interesting.

What if f from the most and least common word lists, we go into each of the most common words and find out what words they have or don't have in common (most/least common denominators)?

What if inside each common word or inside each of the BS categories you see the most/least common words inside the articles? (We could see what the topic is biased for or against this way)

Chatroom funxtion

For the break/transition between machine chat and human chat:

What if the human chat started with the question (asked by librarian to visitor) Would you prefer to talk to a human or would you rather keep chatting to me?

Confuse the visitor. Make them think they're still talking to machine/AI, if they choose to keep chatting with computer. It can be the reverse of those tests designed to see whether a machine can pass as human. If they choose to chat with "machine," human will have to act like machine trying to act like a human lol. And then at the end we ask visitor if they think they were chatting with human or machine.

Maybe we can sell it as AI portion of project. Deep learning Vs shadow learning.

Receipt printer

Maybe the receipt is something you get from the main printer you've chatted with before you can go to librarian if you choose the human talk option?

If we ask questions like: choose the words you think should be most orleast common in a Social Practice curriculum

Theyy can see in receipt printer later which ones they got wrong and right AND the data set the list is trained on (actual most and least common words) . So in the end the receipt also acts as self-institutional critique. The receipt is transparency. You usually only get the result of quizzes you participate in, Neve rthe data set or set of rules that is determining your results.

Human chat

If they choose human chat they can facetime with a librarian. Either real face time or video chat

Assistants

We need volunteers to help serve information, assemble final info packets and maybe also gather information as silent observers stationed around theroonm. Maybe the data of secret observers (wearing white jacket, looks nervous) can also be useful? Can be served in receipt printer too. Talk with student volunteers about this on October 5.

Ok am going back to bed still have an hour of sleep left!


WORK SESSION 2 🐸

21 September 2018 Manetta, Andre, Clara

Frequency ... oh dear frequency

🚩RED FLAG: "MOST FREQUENT WORDS" LIST SCRAPED FROM THE WIKI CONTENT: Where is: Care? Engagement? Activism? The Other? Queer? Feminism? Gender? Race? Black? Brown? Inclusivity? Ethics? Culture? Sensitivity? Reality? Context? Politics? Subversion? Resistance? Cohesion? The Commons? Power? Politics? Humane? Human? The Institution? Theory? Post-Colonial? Decolonial? Eurocentric? Patriarchy? Privilege? Capitalism? CRITIQUE? Question? Humility? Conflict? 🚩

Counting words https://github.com/wdka-publicationSt/print-kiosk-ii/blob/master/wiki-word-count.py

social 1308

category 1279

design 1236

people 845

project 768

article 701

new 637

also 629

file 561

jpg 517

selector 492

way 475

art 440

one 437

different 416

work 408

http 398

rotterdam 393

make 392

students 385

research 373

wiki 331

like 330

beyond 328

change 324

could 322

www 316

br 309

world 307

use 306

game 290

economy 290

designers 285

open 276

community 272

wdka 272

future 267

create 265

within 259

time 259

would 259

first 255

process 255

business 254

space 233

com 233

see 233

city 230

projects 229

society 226

Snaps

File:Wdka-printer-interface-secure-queue.jpg


Unrelated Morning Talk

What is panarchy? Pure governance and networked governance. Global system of rule. Romanticized as peaceful and pastoral. Laissez faire economics.

What is ordoliberalism? German system of order/rules applied to liberal politics.

What is voluntaryism? All human interactions should be voluntary.

HNI Talk island.eu (to be published on verticalatlas.net, talk in collaboration with thedigitalearth.org):

Benjamin Bratton Stack Model BB says it's problematic to equate user to citizen

BRATTON STACK.png

Victoria Ivanova Looking at ways to make citizenship more dynamic, human rights context. Case of death row inmates who could try to get EU citizenship to escape death penalty in US.


Eavesdropping on HTML Class Being Held in the Same Room Where We Are Working

Introduction to the web, the www, which came while the internet was already around for a while, but introduced the language HTML.

Early netart examples:


WORK SESSION 1 🤯

18 September 2018 Manetta, Andre, Clara

Non-Ether Pad

FULL SCAN Developer Non-Ether Pad.jpg

DETAIL Developer Non-Ether Pad.jpg

Transcribed Conversations + Developer Post-Scripts

CONVERSATIONS

DEVELOPER POST-SCRIPTS

MANETTA: Students who want to change the CSS? They are allowed to do so in individual pages, but not on home page Prioritize, now it's more important to fix structure and other concerns If students will be involved as editors, they can be added to the administrator right group Where is the admin page with instructions and manual?

CLARA: User Permissions... What is semantic wiki curator?

ANDRE: Tim Berners Lee (semantic wiki) how machines can query the web in a smart way, if I ask a question that is very specific, this information must be translated to queries for a machine to understand, It would be a big change from how we normally query information via google search, it didn’t really work because it’s a chaotic place and it needs an agreement on vocabularies and lots of manual labor, the universe is too large for this, but within a small universe such as a wiki it works wikipedia was having roblemsw its their categorization because for instance if you have an example such as Trump, categories start to overlap because there is no limit to what you can say any given thing is so it created a profusion of categorizations… territory is flat, no hierarchy, so semantic media wiki came as a way to address that problem but in the meantime wikipedia started working with Wikidata it’s a very structured, very dry categorization of objects and entries, in several languages, with property and value (continent would be property and Asia would be the value and Philippines would be the object of the search).. it’s problematic, a bit of a mindfuck, often the more official and correct ways of doing it are very constraining you really need a group of editors that understands and designs the information structure.

At the moment we use the category mechanism which is using different boxes

Category: Easy to add new, difficult to remove old tags from all instances, but you can remove a category

CLARA: Editorial Board: Semantic Committee Could edit categories? Is there a place where they are defined? A glossary of categories? Could be included in the article relation, when you click on it there is a definition. This could be the task of the new editorial board or semantic committee, an admission that the task of categorization is fundamentally fluid. We should have our own definitions, as well as link to other texts or definitions that we find useful

Yes, all the categories that we work with are listed on this page: http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/Topic:Topics. To add a topic: make a page in the format Topic:yourtopichere and copy/paste the smw query from another topic page, for example from Topic:Activism. It will add your new topic to the umbrella category "Topics", which is queried on the Topic:Topics page. (A bit of an iterative act..:) we use it to make the overview pages with the thumbnails.) 
> i copied this over to the Administrators_tips page.
A few notes on categories && semantic tags:
* Categories <> Semantic tagging. Semantic Tags ... are more nuanced, in the way that a tag contains a semantic direction of the 'grouping' so to say. For example: by categories you place "trump" in the category "president", in the semantic tagging system, you tag "trump" with the tag "position" : "president". The intention of the category is not "blanco", or the act of categorising is not  but it comes with a direction, namely "position".
* add a link to the topic in the Form:Article layout 
* add the description of each topic to the topic page

CLARA: List of basic wiki commands?

MANETTA: You mean syntax

CLARA: Does it exist? Can it be embedded from another page?

MANETTA: Yes, it's the Manual section (right now it's on the horizontal menu at the top of the page (> http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/Manual)

ANDRE: The act of hyperlinking/embedding to other pages or wikis (interwikis) with the same software (mediawiki), basically making them part of your ecosystem. We can add shortcuts/ short extensions TRANSCLUSION: Concept by Ted Nelson Transclusion: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Transclusion

MANETTA + CLARA *mini-class*:

To embed another page, type an address like this:

{{Namespace:Pagename}}

Example 1: {{User:Andre}} to transclude a user page

Example 2: {{File:Whateverfilename.jpg}} to transclude a file

Example 3: {{Print_Kiosk}} to transclude a whole page in main namespace (no need to type the namespace, it doesn't have one)

Am gonna request/transclude the address {{User:Andre}} now, to embed User:Andre's page, so you can see what happens.

 Template:Namespace:Pagename  Help pages:

Toastcat.jpg

fight spam

Follow https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:DeleteBatch.php and Special:BlockBatch

Wiki Settings

Extensions

SelectCategory

SelectCategory is responsible for the bottom category selection in menus

Extension does not work with skin Vector in MW 1.26. Needs to be changed to wfLoadSkin( 'MonoBook' );

And requires CategoryTree. See settings in #CategoryTree section.


Requires Categories to be organized as parents and children, with the parent category defined in extensions/SelectCategory/SelectCategory.php

#$wgSelectCategoryNamespaces - list of namespaces in which this extension should be active
if( !isset( $wgSelectCategoryNamespaces ) ) $wgSelectCategoryNamespaces = array(
        NS_MEDIA                => true,
        NS_MAIN                 => true,
        NS_TALK                 => false,
        NS_USER                 => false,
        NS_USER_TALK            => false,
        NS_PROJECT              => true,
        NS_PROJECT_TALK         => false,
        NS_IMAGE                => true,
        NS_IMAGE_TALK           => false,
        NS_MEDIAWIKI            => false,
        NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK       => false,
        NS_TEMPLATE             => false,
        NS_TEMPLATE_TALK        => false,
        NS_HELP                 => true,
        NS_HELP_TALK            => false,
        NS_CATEGORY             => true,
        NS_CATEGORY_TALK        => false
);

# $wgSelectCategoryRoot - root category to use for which namespace, otherwise self detection (expensive)
if( !isset( $wgSelectCategoryRoot ) ) $wgSelectCategoryRoot = array(
        NS_MEDIA                => "BS",
        NS_MAIN                 => "BS",
        NS_TALK                 => false,
        NS_USER                 => false,
        NS_USER_TALK            => false,
        NS_PROJECT              => "BS",
        NS_PROJECT_TALK         => false,
        NS_IMAGE                => "BS",
        NS_IMAGE_TALK           => false,
        NS_MEDIAWIKI            => false,
        NS_MEDIAWIKI_TALK       => false,
        NS_TEMPLATE             => false,
        NS_TEMPLATE_TALK        => false,
        NS_HELP                 => "BS",
        NS_HELP_TALK            => false,
        NS_CATEGORY             => "BS",
        NS_CATEGORY_TALK        => false
);

CategoryTree

require_once( "$IP/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTree.php" );
$wgUseAjax = true;
$wgCategoryTreeDynamicTag = true;
$wgCategoryTreeSidebarRoot = "BS";
#$wgCategoryTreeDefaultOptions['mode'] = 'all';
/* $wgCategoryTreeMaxChildren = 400; */
$wgCategoryPagingLimit = 400;
$wgCategoryTreeForceHeaders = true;
$wgCategoryTreeSpecialPageOptions=true;
$wgCategoryTreeDynamicTag=true;
$wgCategoryTreeDefaultMode=true;

MANETTA + CLARA *convo*: menu (Mediawiki:Sidebar) on the top, creating more accessible/legible names, making it clear that there is an editing corner so to speak. switching the special pages to the editing menu, calling it something like do some maintenance. also the contributions menu option is like an activity log, name should clear.

CLARA: What is the beyond social publishing page? mostly online publications?

MANETTA + ANDRE: 3 publications. 1 wiki to print folder, loose sheets on the table and people could collect material into the folder. 2nd round of this. Maybe some fliers (used those in print kiosk for grad show) Who knows this well is Kimmy.

CLARA *thought bubble*: We need to document the print history of Beyond Social a little better? Also we need to bind the last print kiosk collection and photograph. Need to ask for student help once all the urgent shit is sorted.

CLARA + MANETTA *convo*: Need to rewrite user manuals or editor manuals (or page editing interface -- the article form) so that people know how to use each form in the best way. issue of uploading photos twice or multiple times can be addressed here.

A: Working with Mediawiki , a good book that goes from very basic editing to very complex subjects such as semantic media wiki, etc... http://www.workingwithmediawiki.com/book/

MANETTA: mostly student works on BS this year, before it was teachers and externals mostly but not all of the old articles are available on the site since they haven't been formatted to the new structure. but they're searchable.

MANETTA: 378 content articles listed "main namespace" excluding the pages that are under user namespace or under files or under media wiki admin pages, sometimes there are copies with different title name

http://beyond-social.org/wiki/index.php/Special:AllPages

Developer Diary Screenshot Chat.png

DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS

7 September 2018 Manetta, Kimmy, Andre, Clara

25 May 2018 Manetta, Iris, Clara

Notes From Two Meetings Transcribed as Call-Response

Call

RESPONSE

Students don’t understand it, find it hard to contribute

Is it a publishing platform or an archive?

Started as a magazine=type thing based on Wikipedia platform

Manta came in between issue 2 and 3 , discussions around strutting of content and categories and topics

The fact that teana needed to choose a category, and names of the categories themselves

————what is the location of the category? Via semantic—— vocabulary issue
Wikipedia faced this problem because people start creating categories that are synonyms
It’s not a technological question, it’s an archive problem

, questions on changing structure every issue, but wiki makes difficult because changes would mean archival structure is gone

Can the wiki as a reading space be welcoming and by nature it isn’t, the solution was redesigning the wiki so it’s more appealing as a reading space. The other option that we developed in the first few issues was to have a separate reading interface where the content was pulled in
THURSDAY 13 7 PM talk in Amsterdam Renee turner talk Warp and Weft of Memory, includes stuff of semantic wiki

used to be text driven, now its rethought used wiki not just as backend but use it in fullest glory, functions

Went to use the wiki as a wiki again, to use the functions, not pulling it from another website

layers of using wiki, social dimension

Underutilized at the moment

talk page function, place to get comments

Without having a critical mass that could sustain it on its own
bS should be Playground! Sandbox
Social practice didn’t own it, Kimmy was brought it in the project to keep it alive

social layers to be included in interface, make our own layout for the interface, skin

Very important, students annoyed cos they needed to have structure to make the front pages visible, everything is in a form, there is no creativity
Get rid of those forms, still think of image attached to an article
ONE OPEN FIELD, insert html
Take over in color schemes
Separation between layout and structure of content
None of them have to be fixed

listening to the wiki and seeing what to do with functions of the wiki instead of forcing into a strict template which reveals its problems.. wikis are more fluid, templates we we’re making were more magazine-like

editathons were helpful to remove workload from manetta

EDITORIALS - used to be framed within issues

PRINT VERSION in time for ELIA conference

Avenir Heavy - Font

ELIA - November 2018 Finished by October 2018 Concept of publication should be done by July

How do you keep on this playfulness, bring a human dimension to the machine element

Design that is changeable Collecting the material assembling the material (more in the sense of downloading)

Cherry picking
Printer talking to you
Create a series of questions that lead us to certain selection
LaTeX it’s a printing layout language for creating typographically correct documents
Can change a lot but you have to play with rules
Christophe Haag —— based in cologne, freeze.sh
Making a printer to speak to you
Different forms of uploading, Mac frank and Giulia, a physical scanner that makes it easy to upload to the wiki

ELIA conference gives a short pitch for Beyond Social

Slideshow Application by Iris,